OKmail FAQ - IMAP/External Mail access

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Questions

  1. Why should I use IMAP? What is the difference between POP and IMAP?
  2. How can I access my mail at OKmail using Outlook/Netscape/Eudora/etc?
  3. How do I access my OKmail email from my cell/mobile phone
  4. I'm having problems setting up my email client, can you help?
  5. I know how to set up SMTP/POP/IMAP myself, I just want to know: What are the server details?
  6. I'm behind a firewall and can't access IMAP/POP/SMTP. Can you help?
  7. When I delete messages with my IMAP client, it just appears crossed out. Why?
  8. How can I get mail from another account using Opera's mail client?
  9. How can I get mail from another account into OKmail?
  10. Can I get mail from Hotmail to my OKmail account?
  11. How do I get Outlook to save sent messages in my Sent Items folder?
  12. Can I access folders other than Inbox using POP?

Answers

  1. Why should I use IMAP? What is the difference between POP and IMAP?
  2. OKmail supports IMAP access to your email for all account level. We highly recommend that you use IMAP where possible.

    POP is a very simple protocol that only allows downloading of messages from your Inbox to your local computer. Generally, once transferred, the email is then on your local computer and is removed from OKmail (it is possible to leave them on the server, but they all stay in the Inbox).

    IMAP is a much more advanced protocol that allows you to see all your folders on OKmail, and quickly view subjects and message bodies of emails, but delay downloading of larger emails (such as those with attachments) to a later time if you want. IMAP also allows you to synchronise mail folders between your home machine and OKmail on the web, so that you see the same folders and messages wherever and however you access your email.

    IMAP

    POP

    Flexibility Can view just message headers, and then choose which messages to download Have to download all messages at once
    Can delete/move a message without having to download it Have to download all messages
    Can download just text body of a message Have to download entire message (including any large attachments)
    Synchronisation Can view messages in all folders Can only download messages from Inbox
    Any changes made via web interface or email software (eg move message, add flags, etc) appears in the other automatically Once downloaded, changes only made on local email software
    Can access messages both at home/work, and on the road through the web interface Once downloaded, can only access messages at home/work
    Safety All messages kept on OKmail servers, including realtime replication to a backup server, and nightly incremental backups of all emails to yet another server kept for 1 week Once downloaded, copy only exists on your local computer, if it crashes, email is lost (it is possible to leave messages on the server, but all messages stay in the Inbox)

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  3. How can I access my mail at OKmail using Outlook/Netscape/Eudora/etc?
  4. OKmail supports both POP and IMAP access to your mail by external clients such as Outlook Express/Netscape/Eudora/Pine/etc. All users get IMAP access, not all users get POP access. See the pricing table for details.

    Please see this FAQ entry to understand the differences between POP and IMAP and why we recommend IMAP.

    If you already know how to setup your email client, see the server details FAQ entry for the server details you need.

    For detailed instructions on setting up IMAP access to your OKmail account, check the following links depending on your email software:

    If your email client is not listed here, you'll have to check its documentation on how to setup an IMAP server and see the server details FAQ entry.

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  5. How do I access my OKmail email from my cell/mobile phone
  6. OKmail supports WAP at http://wap.okmail.net/

    You can access the beta WAP service (sometimes used for testing new features) at http://wap.okmail.net/beta/

    Login with your full email address and password (you can replace the '@' with '=', '/' or '#' if your phone doesn't support entering @). Alternatively, use 'wap.YOURDOMAIN.EXT' as the hostname and just use your username, the same as with web.

    You can create a bookmark to log you in automatically as follows:

    http://wap.okmail.net/?U=username&P=password&F=INBOX

    NOTE: while guests can use this service to view the email, they can not send. This is a technical limitation caused by the fact that the WAP software uses the regular SMTP servers.

    NOTE: the WAP server supports https, but uses a self-signed certificate, so you will certainly get complaints from your phone about the certificate being used. Unless you use 'wap.fastmail.fm' you will also get a complaint about the name not matching, and some phones will refuse to communicate securely at all.

    NOTE: if you enter your username or password incorrectly you will get PHP's totally insane error message "too many failed login attempts" error. This really just means your login details were wrong. Please check that your phone is not automatically capitalizing the first letter of your username or password.

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  7. I'm having problems setting up my email client, can you help?
  8. We've made our setup instructions above as clear as possible, and with the generous help of volunteers, we've covered more email clients than any other system we know. All the configurations have been tested and used by other people and are known to work.

    It's impossible for us to diagnose every problem with every email client, computer, network connection, etc, so unfortunately we can't provide individual help to users. Things to try:

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  9. I know how to set up SMTP/POP/IMAP myself, I just want to know: What are the server details?
  10. Incoming mail server and port

    POP

    IMAP

    Outgoing mail server and port

    SMTP

    The documentation for setting up each client shows where to put the appropriate information. To understand how this is possible, see this page for an explanation of how email is sent and received on the Internet.

    If your IMAP client supports it, you should try and set up the following folders

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  11. I'm behind a firewall and can't access IMAP/POP/SMTP. Can you help?
  12. OKmail has a special proxy system whereby you can access each service (POP, IMAP or SMTP) through any port number. The server names are:

    IMAP: imap.proxy.okmail.net
    IMAP/SSL: imaps.proxy.okmail.net
    POP: pop.proxy.okmail.net
    POP/SSL: pops.proxy.okmail.net
    SMTP: smtp.proxy.okmail.net
    SMTP/SSL: smtps.proxy.okmail.net

    If you use these server names, you can use any port to access these services. Commonly open ports are 80, 21, 25 and 443. Note that if you use SSL you'll get a warning about a non-matching certificate (it's set to 'www.okmail.net'): you can safely ignore this.

    If you use Thunderbird, you can use the remember mismatched domains extension to avoid getting the warning message each time.

    Note that if you are behind a firewall with no ports open and where the only access to the Internet is through a HTTP proxy server (as is the case at some companies), using the above technique will not work for you. In this case, you can still circumvent this restriction by using a rather advanced technique called http-tunneling, but be warned that this might be considered a violation of your company's regulations. See also this "Firewall avoidance measures" forum thread for more information and some software suggestions.

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  13. When I delete messages with my IMAP client, it just appears crossed out. Why?
  14. See here

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  15. How can I get mail from another account using Opera's mail client?
  16. Opera 5/6 doesn't support authenticated SMTP. And it doesn't support IMAP either! :-( We don't recommend using Opera 5/6 for mail. Opera 7 has a much improved email client called M2 which works well. If you are using Opera 5/6, we recommend either upgrading to Opera 7, or try Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.org), Netscape 7 (http://www.netscape.com), Eudora (http://www.eudora.com), or Outlook Express (http://www.microsoft.com).

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  17. How can I get mail from another account into OKmail?
  18. If your external account supports the POP access to it's mail, then you can retrieve mail from that account into OKmail. Most ISP email accounts are accessed using POP. To set up OKmail to retrieve mail from your ISP's POP server, go to the 'Pop Links' screen and read the instructions here

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  19. Can I get mail from Hotmail to my OKmail account?
  20. Yes! You create a Pop Link and set the type to 'Hotmail'.

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  21. How do I get Outlook to save sent messages in my Sent Items folder?
  22. See this Microsoft knowledge base article:

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q198854

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  23. Can I access folders other than Inbox using POP?
  24. Yes. You can access your folders by logging in via POP with a special username+foldername login name. For examle, if you have a folder called "Jokes", you can access this folder via POP by logging in using the special username "yourusername+Jokes@okmail.net" Note that folder names are case-sensitive

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